[MRSSA News] Driver Certification

Wed Jan 26 15:40:39 CST 2005

P.S. Tom Ghiloni the former NSSA President supports it as well.  The 2005 board information isn't on USA Water Ski yet, so I'm not sure if he holds an official position anymore.

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From: "Steve Anderson" <steve at stevelanderson.com>
To: "Mailing List for Midwest Region" <News at mrssa.org>
Subject: RE: [MRSSA News] Driver Certification
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:49:19 -0600

<P>Information only regarding the existing petition:</P>
<P>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>We are at 10 teams from Wisconsin. (waiting on board action from 5 more)<BR>River Rats and Ski Otters from MN.<BR>Souix Falls from S.D.<BR>Tampa Bay<BR>US Waterski Team East Coast<BR>Neptune East Coast<BR>Grand City, Grand Rapids MI.</P>
<P>Waiting for several more from Wisconsin.  <STRONG>Cam McNeil, the new NSSA President</STRONG>, <BR>called me on Tuesday night.  He surprised me and said that he supported our <BR>efforts to get this changed.  He said that he would do whatever it takes to make <BR>this happen at Think Tank.  Cam is with a smaller club in the East and they <BR>struggle with compliance also.  <STRONG>Gary Stout (NSSA Board</STRONG> and Tampa Bay) from the <BR>Southern Region is also lending us his support.</P>
<P>Jim Martin<BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</P>
<P>Lynn Novakofski is involved as well; not sure if he holds a position.</P>
<P>Team liability is as big a concern as compliance.</P>
<P>Steve</P>
<P><BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Berg, Bruce" <BBERG at CI.ROCHESTER.MN.US><BR>To: "Mailing List for Midwest Region" <NEWS at MRSSA.ORG><BR>Subject: RE: [MRSSA News] Driver Certification<BR>Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 07:35:36 -0600<BR><BR></P>
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 I would be happy to set up the meeting room at fire station 1. We will need a conference call #, if someone has access to one we can use. I need to know what time we would like to meet. 10 or 11 sounds about right to me. Get back to me so I can set the room. I can be at ski motion on the 21st with bells on, but, would like to know if there is sufficient need for instruction on the 22nd I can arrange other instructors from Roch if needed. I also would like to schedule a testing time on Sat if this is possible. I am hoping not to burn up any vacation for the 22nd. I think Dave is absolutely right. We did have input on the drivers program. The drivers program as stands is not going to be changed this year. (All rule changes for the NSSA happen at the winter meeting in Nov.) The smartest thing we, as a region, could do is try it for the year. Should it become a major problem after the year we can submit a proposed change in the fall to be considered at the Nov meeting. This is the correct procedure and will carry the most weight and consideration. In addition, if we have a problem, likely, there will be other teams in, or out, of the same boat. It would be best not to rock our boat and make needless waves. In my opinion it will do no good for our individual teams to create, sign, or back any petitions attempting to undermine the new driver testing policy and procedure. I also feel we should stay united on this. I think it should be placed on the agenda for the MRSSA meeting on Feb 26th. If anyone is interested in making any kind of statement or proposal we can address it at that time. We can then decide what we want to do.
 
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-----Original Message----- From: News-bounces at mrssa.org [mailto:News-bounces at mrssa.org] On Behalf Of dnemec at comcast.net Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 6:42 PM To: Mailing List for Midwest Region; Mailing List for Midwest Region Cc: Mailing List for Midwest Region; News-bounces at mrssa.org Subject: RE: [MRSSA News] Driver Certification
 
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I pulled this out of the 9/26 minutes, see below....</DIV>
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---Larry...Was Chris approved to be an Tow Boat Instructor? </DIV>
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---Ski Otters agreed to host a driver clinic the weekend of May 21-22. Let's proceed. All teams were aware of it and wanted it. (it was distributed in the 9/26 meeting minutes by Kristi on 9/28 to this distribution list)</DIV>
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---If the River Rats are going to host a clinic for their drivers at a different time it will be a second opportunity for drivers.</DIV>
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---Kristi, were you successful in contacting Herb regarding the Safety Clinic?</DIV>
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---Bruce, you were going to spearhead a doubles clinic, is this progressing?</DIV>
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---We will need to submit a grant request for the ski motion. We can do it at our next meeting.</DIV>
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---Larry, the only open item on the LOC agreement that I am aware of is whether or not we will have a plaque for Dock&Equipment. As part of an earlier email, this is an agenda item for our MRSSA winter meeting. I have not rec'd a signed copy of the LOC agreement. Please hand-write the open item and return it to me.</DIV>
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---Steve Anderson, it sounds like you are creating a petition of some sort... can you please put it in writing and present it to/or at the next MRSSA meeting. As we have a voice with the NSSA board, we want things to come through the regional board and have support of a majority of the teams within the region. We had input into the modification of the certified boat driver rule before it went to the fall NSSA meeting. Although our recommendation was not approved verbatim, the final outcome was much better for showskiing then having the 100% requirement...</DIV>
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---Steve Anderson, I think you are misinterpreting the new rule. A learner's permit is just that. A formal permit to learn. There is no driving test to recieve a learner's permit. You need the club president to sign for liability reasons and also a certified driver on the team who agrees to be a mentor. This is all makes good sense in my opinion. Having boat drivers (and others) safety certified also makes good sense as Larry mentioned in his email.</DIV>
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---I agreed to try and get Pete Bonnert to attend to teach the Judges Clinic. Based on my conversations so far with judges in the midwest region, I have not found any judges who need to attend the refresher class this spring. (Judges need to attend this meeting every two years.) I am still checking with more judges... update will be provided at next MRSSA meeting.</DIV>
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Next meeting - Feb 26 in Rochester. Bruce, can we meet at the firehouse again?</DIV>
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exerpts from Kristi's 9/26 MRSSA meeting minutes......(sorry the formating is bad). </DIV>
<DIV><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -27pt">A. Ski Motion Discussion</PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 2.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -1in">1. Ski Motion to be held the weekend of May 21-22.</PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in">2. Ski Otters offered to host the Ski Motion (Drivers/Safety/Judges Clinic) </PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in"> – Dave Nemec will try to get Pete Bonnert for Judges Clinic, </PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in"> Kristi Skillings will try to get Herb Shulte or Steve Haner for Safety </PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in"> and we are waiting on Chris (<?xml:namespace prefix = u1 /><u1:City><u1:place>Sioux Falls</u1:place></u1:City>) for the board to approve him as a certified NSSA driver tester.</PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in">3. Would like to add a doubles-clinic in conjunction with Ski Motion. Bruce Berg will look into getting doubles-couples up to instruct.</PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 99pt"> 4. Grant requests need to be made to NSSA by April 1st.</PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 99pt">B. Update of 2005 Regional Tournament</PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in">Waterhawks are making some site improvements (dock, bleachers, etc)</PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in; TEXT-INDENT: -27pt">C. Next Meeting</PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in">Saturday, prior to Think Tank – to be held in <u1:City><u1:place>Rochester</u1:place></u1:City>.</PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in"> </PRE><PRE style="MARGIN-LEFT: 99.75pt"> </PRE></DIV>
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-------------- Original message -------------- The Ski Otters are more than willing to host Ski Motion again. I just didn't want to duplicate any efforts if a clinic in early June made more sense for teams. I will keep moving forward with the Ski Motion Clinics - Dave Nemec . . . you were checking on an instructor for driver and judge . . . any committments yet? - Steve - If you could get me more info on the petition . . . our team will be signing it. 
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 Thanks. This is definitely making things interesting. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Meany Larry D" <MeanyLarryD at JohnDeere.com> To: "Mailing List for Midwest Region" <News at mrssa.org> Subject: RE: [MRSSA News] Driver Certification Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:12:55 -0600 > > I have a call into Jim Babcock to have one here before Think Tank if possible. > If we get one scheduled I will let you know. > > -----Original Message----- > From: News-bounces at mrssa.org [mailto:News-bounces at mrssa.org]On Behalf Of > steve at stevelanderson.com > Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 1:08 PM > To: Mailing List for Midwest Region > Subject: RE: [MRSSA News] Driver Certification > > > Maybe we should hold a couple safety clinics? I've been pushing people on my > team to go to Think Tank because they have one, but it doesn't seem like there > are very many people able or willing to take that Friday off at this point. > It looks like the other possibilities right now are Wausau and Neenah, WI on a > couple Saturdays coming up in the next month. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Meany Larry D" <MeanyLarryD at JohnDeere.com> > To: "Mailing List for Midwest Region" <News at mrssa.org> > Subject: RE: [MRSSA News] Driver Certification > Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:50:55 -0600 > > > > > Steve The Tested drivers signature is one of your teams tested drivers They > > do not have to drive but they have to have had the safety. Safety clinics > > are going to be a big deal. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: News-bounces at mrssa.org [mailto:News-bounces at mrssa.org]On Behalf Of > > steve at stevelanderson.com > > Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 12:43 PM > > To: News at mrssa.org; kristi.skillings at skiotter.com > > Subject: Re: [MRSSA News] Driver Certification > > > > > > Hi Kristi, > > We were thinking about holding one in addition, but only if there was > > interest in it. We'll likely have at least 2-3 people certified on the > > triple and several others on our twin this year. > > Some of them may need time at the throttle before testing. However, I'm > > still a little uncertain about this statement in the new rule regarding > > requirements for a Learner's Permit, "Must fill out the application with the > > tested driver's signature and the club President's signature and then sent > > to headquarters." It looks like they need to be tested to have a learner's > > permit? If so, that doesn't make sense since they need to practice for a > > chance at passing. > > > > Anyway, we simply need to get a few people some time at the throttle before > > testing if it's possible. If the water's high at our site in May they won't > > be able to practice. > > > > We're not trying to steal the Ski Otter's thunder. :) Just covering our > > tail if the new rule stands as is when the season rolls around. > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kristi Skillings" <kristi.skillings at skiotter.com> > > To: steve at stevelanderson.com, "Mailing List for Midwest Region" > > <News at mrssa.org> > > Subject: Re: [MRSSA News] Driver Certification > > Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:18:36 -0600 > > > > > > > > Howdy Steve. > > > Is this driver's clinic in addition to the annual 'ski motion' > > > drivers/safety/judges clinic which is held in May? > > > > > > If so, does it make more sense just to have the River Rats host the above > > > clinic (Ski Motion) on one of the weekends in June? > > > > > > Kristi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Steve Anderson <steve at stevelanderson.com> > > > Sent by: News-bounces at mrssa.org > > > 01/11/2005 02:00 PM > > > Please respond to steve; Please respond to Mailing List for Midwest Region > > > > > > > > > To: MRSSA MRSSA <News at mrssa.org> > > > cc: Tony Richgels <trichgels at yahoo.com> > > > Subject: [MRSSA News] Driver Certification > > > > > > > > > Good afternoon, > > > The River Rats are interested in hosting an Driver's Certification exam > > > on one of the first three weekends in June(4th, 11th, or 18th). J.R. > > > Wilson said he doesn't foresee this being a problem. 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